tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8505368605400567122.post8285610220693076172..comments2024-03-17T01:54:04.699+00:00Comments on A350 XWB News: How Airbus is supposed to compete with Boeing in the widebody market (1/2)Blogjfahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17813592857709423431noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8505368605400567122.post-37317886511586974912014-09-25T15:07:09.551+01:002014-09-25T15:07:09.551+01:00In small and medium wide body segment it is easy t...In small and medium wide body segment it is easy to select the competitors:<br />B787-8 vs A330-200 (-800neo)<br />B787-9 vs A330-300 (-900neo) (Boeing has longer range)<br />B787-10 vs A350-900 (Airbus has longer range)<br />B777-300ER (-8X) vs A350-1000<br /><br />In VLA (400+ pax) segment B777-9X, B748-8I and A380 have their own class.<br /><br />The most important question about the VLA is the feature of Great Gulf 3 (the three largest Gulf carriers: Emirates, Etihad Airways and Qatar Airways as G3).<br /><br />Backlog G3 versus rest of the world (as RW) (August, 2014):<br /><br />1. B777X – RW = 61 (21% of 286), G3 = 225 (81%)<br />2. A380 – RW = 70 (39% of 180), G3 = 110 (61%)<br />3. B777-300ER – RW = 181 (76% of 238), G3 = 57 (24%)<br />4. A350 – RW = 600 (81% of 742), G3 = 142 (19%)<br /><br />The biggest (B777X, A380) are the most dependent (81%, 61%). Who knows their future? Is it possible and cost effective to deliver aircrafts for one, two or three customers?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8505368605400567122.post-12844224750276064362014-09-25T09:15:44.726+01:002014-09-25T09:15:44.726+01:00Chinese, Delta or Virgin may switch from 787's...Chinese, Delta or Virgin may switch from 787's to A330s. Hint. They're not<br /><br />They ordered / introduced A330s years after they ordered / deferred 787s. For the same routes. Richard Anderson at some point will have to replace his current transpac VLA fleet to booming Asia. Just like UA. Because there no competition, they tell Airbus they don't really need it, maybe. Negotiation tactic when you have no choice. BA did it for years. <br />keesjehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12119181072507743708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8505368605400567122.post-69454354154877464332014-09-24T23:58:10.700+01:002014-09-24T23:58:10.700+01:00Nothing personal here. Your opinion about airlines...Nothing personal here. Your opinion about airlines is just that. You can't use how airlines fly 787-10's in Asia as a base on how well the aircraft will perform. For example, SQ will fly the 787-10 in and around Asia yet it is payload restricted. Do you think they know that? Yes. Do you think they care? Yes. Yet they still bought them. The 777-9 weighs A LOT more than the 77W and the A351 yet it still sells and sells well. CX bought some. So did LH. So did NH. Do you think they know this? Of course they do. <br /><br />Stop believing the A380 is as awesome as you make it to be. Its sales are stagnant. LH and AF just came out and said that they don't want anymore. Ask mh, tg and BA if they want anymore. Hint. They don't. And let's not get into the second hand A380 market. <br /><br />My point is its okay to be an Airbus cheerleader but you can't always cry about the 777x being fat and heavy or how the Chinese, Delta or Virgin may switch from 787's to A330s. Hint. They're not. Virgin more than likely won't take delivery of the A380 it ordered since Richard Anderson is owns 49% of Virgin and has a lot of say. Jet.Fuel.773-erhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11442299987498795231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8505368605400567122.post-43858946730676151372014-09-23T14:41:48.405+01:002014-09-23T14:41:48.405+01:00You asked how I expect Airbus to complete with the...You asked how I expect Airbus to complete with the Boeing 787-9, 787-10 and the 777-9. I give answers & then you become personal and aggressive, what's that? <br /><br />Where / how airlines are able to fly their aircraft determines their success. At least thats where I come from.. <br /><br />I expect the A330 and A350 to continue selling well, because the 787 is the Dreamliner and sold out, the 787-10 will be payload restricted and the 777-9 at least 7 years away and heavy.<br /><br />Airlines like Virgin, Delta and the Chinese could switch from the 787 over to the A330. Or have already for some reason. keesjehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12119181072507743708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8505368605400567122.post-14223258300653454162014-09-23T00:46:46.206+01:002014-09-23T00:46:46.206+01:00You're missing the point. Who cares if UA flie...You're missing the point. Who cares if UA flies the 787-10 to Jupiter or SQ flies the 787-10 to Siberia? It's not up to you nor I to see how the planes they purchase with THEIR money are flown. Airlines place trust in Boeing (Airbus as well) to deliver a product that will do as described. They speak with their wallets, not with anything else, as I putting money where your mouth is. Do you understand?Jet.Fuel.773-erhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11442299987498795231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8505368605400567122.post-31625661453471537242014-09-22T21:52:04.210+01:002014-09-22T21:52:04.210+01:00Jet fuel 777-er, do you feel SQ will use the 787-1...Jet fuel 777-er, do you feel SQ will use the 787-10 to Europe, or UA to Asia? The A330Neo (change of topic btw) is nothing special, just continuing to build an excellent popular aircraft at high rates. Why stop? The A380 (another change of topic) will have the sales and margins of a popular efficient HQ aircraft without competition I guess..keesjehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12119181072507743708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8505368605400567122.post-62443376504939870262014-09-22T00:52:24.392+01:002014-09-22T00:52:24.392+01:00False. Your LH example is one. Ask UA SQ and soon ...False. Your LH example is one. Ask UA SQ and soon to be EK how they feel about the 787-10. Perhaps you should mention the fact that Airbus failed with the A358 and had to prop up the A330 into a NEO to not let Boeing take over the 240-300 seat market. Perhaps you should mention why Airbus has no answer for the 777-8/9. Expect the A380 to end by 2025-30. If it can't secure orders from new customers and is barely getting orders from existing customers, it's future is bleak. You conveniently didn't mention hoe the A330 NEO is mostly bought by lessors because it's a 10 year plane sold on the merits of 1) availability 2) price. The NEO also has no increase in capacity from its predecessor. That's convenient.Tell us how you expect Airbus to complete with the Boeing 787-9, 787-10 and the 777-9. We'll wait. <br />Jet.Fuel.773-erhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11442299987498795231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8505368605400567122.post-48879013862199985182014-09-21T09:12:39.443+01:002014-09-21T09:12:39.443+01:00I think Boeing will have a problem competing again...I think Boeing will have a problem competing against the A350-900 and A350-1000. The 787-10 lacks the payload range to do Asia with a usefull cargo load (ask Lufthansa), the 777-8 has an empty weight that is about 25-30 tonnes (!!) higher then the A350-1000, with all costs associated. keesjehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12119181072507743708noreply@blogger.com